{"id":10566,"date":"2017-02-02T14:58:58","date_gmt":"2017-02-02T19:58:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bestbassgear.com\/ebass\/?p=10566"},"modified":"2017-02-03T11:26:17","modified_gmt":"2017-02-03T16:26:17","slug":"silencing-the-noise-on-a-marcus-miller-signature-bass","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bestbassgear.com\/ebass\/gear\/electronics\/silencing-the-noise-on-a-marcus-miller-signature-bass.html","title":{"rendered":"Silencing the Noise on a Marcus Miller Signature Bass"},"content":{"rendered":"

I have an older Marcus Miller Signature bass, and it used to be highly susceptible to noise picked up through the vintage single-coil pups<\/a> (unless they were exactly balanced in volume, and also light buzzing (that would go away when I touched the strings).\u00a0 That’s all gone now.\u00a0 It’s absolutely silent until I thunder a string – because I re-wired it to remove the ground loops, and I shielded the pups. It was great before – it’s\u00a0 unbelievable now.<\/p>\n

I opened up the control cavity and what I found in there shocked me, considering the presumed build quality of this bass.\u00a0 It was a textbook case of how NOT to wire and shield a guitar – or any audio device for that matter! So, if your control panel is wired like the picture below, and you are getting noise, I now know you can get rid of it simply by eliminating the ground loops and shielding the pups. (What I can’t understand is – why was it built that way?)<\/p>\n

\"fig1\"<\/p>\n

Key things to notice are (1) the short black wires joining the shells of the pots, (2) some of the pot terminals are bent back and soldered to the shell, and (3) the conductive paint coating does not go high enough to make contact with the foil-backed pick-guard.<\/p>\n

What I did was this:<\/p>\n

(1) added a foil liner to bridge the gap from the conductive paint in the cavity, up over the edge to make contact with the foil on the back of the pick guard,
\n(2) gave all the signal grounds their own wiresand ran them allto one point,removing all the ground loops, and
\n(3) shielded the pups with copper foil, and grounded the shields.<\/p>\n

Here’s the end result.<\/p>\n

\"fig2\"<\/p>\n

Bloody hell, what a difference!Dead silence now regardless of volume and pickup balance.<\/p>\n

INSTRUCTIONS:<\/p>\n

FIRST THING \u2013Thanks to John Atchley and his Guitar Nuts website that inspired me to do this project. Please visit https:\/\/www.guitarnuts.com\/wiring\/index.php. You will notice that John strongly recommends a capacitor to prevent electrocution in the event of amplifier malfunction.\u00a0 My bass didn\u2019t have that capacitor, and I haven\u2019t added it to mine yet, but I intend to look into it further \u2013 I have already bought the capacitor.<\/p>\n

SECOND THING \u2013 These instructions are not step-by-step, but rather they assume you know enough about soldering and simple switch-circuit wiring to provide self guidance and not do damage. Think ahead and apply common sense liberally. If you are unsure, I recommend you ask for help from someone who is more comfortable with these things.<\/p>\n

There is no visible difference to the guitar from the outside after this work, but it sounds clean.<\/p>\n

PART ONE \u2013 Shielding the control cavity.<\/p>\n

Remove the battery.<\/p>\n

This bass already came with aluminum foil on the back of the pick guard, a very nice coat of conductive paint inside the cavity. If you need to add these things to your bass, the instructions are on the Guitar Nuts website above.<\/p>\n

But unfortunately on this bass, the conductive paint did not come up and over the edge, and therefore the pick guard foil couldn\u2019t make contact.\u00a0 All I needed to do here was to complete the shielding all around the edge by adding a foil strip around the lip of the cavity such it makes electrical connection with the pick guard. On the inside, the new foil touches the conductive paint; on the top side, the pick guard sits on the foil when installed.<\/p>\n

I chose to use aluminum foil tape for this – the shiny thin metal aluminum tape that you get at a hardware store for dryer duct taping (NOT fabric-based duct tape!). This tape is about 2 inches wide, so I cut it in half length-wise into 1-inch strips. A box cutter or exacto knife is all you need to work with this.<\/p>\n

You need to make good contact with the conductive paint, and the adhesive side of the tape is not conductive.\u00a0 So, to get the shiny conductive side up against the paint, I folded\u00a0 over about 1\/4″ onto itself
\n(Fig 3-start) (Fig 4\u2013ready), and stuck the strip on the side of the cavity such that the folded shiny foil
\nwas in contact with the conductive paint (Fig 5). Apply it in strips of convenient length to work with, but apply pieces to go all around the cavity lip.\u00a0 Make sure the edges butt together or overlap.<\/p>\n

\"fig3-fig4\"<\/p>\n

\"fig5\"<\/p>\n

I have three tips when it comes to bending the foil over on to the top surface of the guitar:<\/p>\n

(1) Slit the upstanding foil vertically at the bends \u2013 once at each side of the bend, and one or more times in the bend, as you see fit. Folding back the straight sections is easy now, because you have slit the foil before the bend.\u00a0 And slitting the bends will let you approximate several straight sections.<\/p>\n

(2) Focus on getting the foil flat, because wrinkles will end up raising the pick guard and reducing its overall contact. Don\u2019t worry about gaps on the top side \u2013 it is the inside that matters most.\u00a0 And don\u2019t worry about overlapping the foil sections \u2013 you will easily cut out the overlaps in the next step.<\/p>\n

(3) Where possible, cover over a screw hole, because that will provide the tightest electrical contact when the pick guard is installed.<\/p>\n

I then made secure electrical contact between the folded foil and the conductive paint on the side of the cavity by winding tiny short screws into it.\u00a0 Tips on the screws:<\/p>\n

(1) Put the screw through the folded part of the foil. That\u2019s where the shiny foil is on the other side up against the paint \u2013 which is the whole point of this.<\/p>\n

(2) Use the tiniest screws you can find.\u00a0 I used #4 x 1\/2″.<\/p>\n

(3) Avoid twisting the foil under the screw head by putting a washer under the screw, or at least don\u2019t over-tighten \u2013 all you need is contact.<\/p>\n

(4) Make a starter hole with a needle – shaped scratch awl or something.<\/p>\n

(5) Don\u2019t put screws where the heads will interfere with the pot shell when the pick guard is installed.<\/p>\n

(6) You don\u2019t need many screws \u2013 maybe even none at all – but I used one per foil strip.<\/p>\n

Next, remove the overlaps in the foil.\u00a0 Simply slit down one side of the overlap and peel off the top layer that you just freed with the slit.<\/p>\n

Finally, trim off the excess foil.\u00a0 I laid the pickguard in place and traced around it with a sharp pencil.\u00a0 Then I lifted off the pick guard and used the knife lightly to trim off the foil to within about 1\/4″ of that line so it\u2019s not visible when the pick guard is installed.<\/p>\n

See Fig 2 for the end result.<\/p>\n

PART TWO – Fixing the ground loops<\/p>\n

The basic goal here is really simple:\u00a0 Separate the \u201csignal ground\u201d wires from the equipment grounds, join them together at a single point, and wire that point to the low side of the output jack. We are NOT going to touch any of the other (signal \u201chot\u201d) wires.<\/p>\n

\u201cSignal grounds\u201d are the (typically) black wires coming from the pickups and anything wired to the arms of a pot that presently goes directly to ground or the shell of a pot \u2013 including those pot terminals bent back and soldered to the shell. \u201cEquipment grounds\u201d are the bridge ground, shield grounds, and the minus side circuit of the battery.<\/p>\n

FYI: The minus side of the battery runs to the ring terminal of the output jack, which acts as an on-off switch when you plug in a cable. This works because the shaft of the mono jack on the cable shorts the ring terminal to the body of the jack, thereby connecting the battery terminal to ground, and to the black (minus) power input wire for the pre-amp.<\/p>\n

On the output jack, find the solder lug connected to the body of the jack (the part with the nut on it).\u00a0 It will likely have wires that you can trace to the battery (-) terminal and to the pre-amp (-) power input,\u00a0 usually a black wire. Leave those wires where they are.<\/p>\n

Isolate the signal grounds:<\/p>\n

(1) I took the black (grounded) wires from the pickups and cut them free at the far end, leaving the longest length of wire possible. (To identify the black wire from the low side of the pickup, versus a the black wire coming through the same hole that is the bridge ground wire, you can lift the ends of the wires and measure continuity.\u00a0 The pickup signal ground wire should measure thousands of ohms between the end of that wire and end of the other wire (typically white) that is the hot side of the pickup.)<\/p>\n

(2) Where ever the terminal of a pot was soldered to the shell, I de-soldered it, moved it back away from the shell, and added a length of black wire.<\/p>\n

(3) At the output jack, the signal grounds and equipment grounds come together.\u00a0 We want this to be the ONLY place they come together.\u00a0 Figure out which is the signal ground \u2013 that is the wire you are going to replace.\u00a0 On my bass, I followed the signal ground wire that was currently connected to the jack and followed it back to its source at the pot shell. Remove it and replace it with a wire. In Fig 2, that is the white wire with a black stripe.<\/p>\n

(4) Bring all these wires together, trim them to a neat length, and solder them together. You should have six wires in that bundle: Two coming pickups, two coming from pots, one from the preamp, and one from the cable jack. These wires should not touch equipment ground anywhere except via the jack body. Insulate this connection \u2013 you don\u2019t want it touching ground or you could get the ground loop buzzing back.<\/p>\n

\"diagram\"<\/p>\n

Then, connect the bridge grounding wire to the foil.\u00a0 You will find it coming through a passage hole near the bridge, possibly running through the bridge pickup cavity, and most likely soldered at the other end to a pot shell.\u00a0 To identify it, remove it at the pot shell end, and you should measure continuity (0 ohms, roughly) between the end of the wire and the bridge body. Solder that wire to a ring terminal, and put the ring terminal under one of the screws that you used to anchor the aluminum foil in Part One.<\/p>\n

Finally, remove all those short black wires soldered on the the shells of the pots.\u00a0 When you are done, nothing should be soldered to the shell of any pot.<\/p>\n

PART THREE \u2013 Shielding the pickups<\/p>\n

This is simply a matter of getting access to the pickups, wrapping them in copper foil, and grounding the foil inside the control cavity.<\/p>\n

Loosen the strings, lift out the pickups, and lift off the plastic covers.<\/p>\n

I wrapped a little strip of electrical tape around the terminals where the leads connect to the coil.\u00a0 This is a precaution against the copper foil touching the terminals after being wrapped and the cover crammed back on.\u00a0 But be very careful not to disturb the coil winding wire because it can break off very easily.<\/p>\n

Cut a length of adhesive copper foil that will wrap around the coil in the same direction as the windings (obviously) with about an inch overlap.\u00a0 (I used a strip of 1″ copper foil – available at many guitar parts supply stores.)\u00a0\u00a0 Peel off the backing and wrap it carefully around the coil with a little bit bent over the top of the coil form, as seen in Fig 6.<\/p>\n

Press ONLY on the plastic coil spool form, and NOT on the coil windings.\u00a0 In fact try to avoid the copper touching the coil winding wire anywhere, even though it is insulated and should not be a big deal if it does touch.<\/p>\n

Tack-solder the foil ends using not too much heat.\u00a0 For each pickup, cut a wire long enough to reach easily into the control cavity from its pickup cavity, and solder one end to the foil. This is shown in Fig 7.<\/p>\n

Carefully put the plastic covers back on the pickups.\u00a0 Then put the new wire through the hole where the pickup leads run, and fish them into the control cavity.\u00a0 Reposition the pickups in their cavities, screw them in place, and re-tension the strings.<\/p>\n

There should now be only the two new shield wires that are loose.\u00a0 Solder them together on a ring terminal, and secure the ring terminal under one of the screws that you used to anchor the aluminum foil in Part One. Clean up all loose debris, check it over, and re-attach the pick guard over the control cavity being careful to avoid pinching wires or any unnecessary binding contact between the pots.\u00a0 If you have trouble fitting the pick guard back in, be sure to check that you are not pressing up against one of those little screws in the foil.\u00a0 Remove it if you are.<\/p>\n

\"fig6\"<\/p>\n

Re-attach the battery and the cover. Tune up – the usual stuff.<\/p>\n

\"fig7\"<\/p>\n

You\u2019re done.\u00a0 Now you can get out there and play the spaces between the notes with REAL silence!<\/p>\n

I found a problem in the Fender.<\/p>\n

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